After leading $20 billion Figma deal, Adobe's David Wadhwani is in prime spot to be next CEO

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David Wadhwani, president of Adobe's Digital Media unit, speaks astatine Adobe's Max league successful Los Angeles successful October 2022.

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In September 2009, with the banal marketplace inactive successful the doldrums from the Great Recession, Adobe announced plans to walk $1.8 cardinal for selling bundle vendor Omniture, its second-biggest acquisition ever astatine the time.

Prior to the woody getting announced, Adobe CEO Shantanu Narayen said astatine a gathering that he's "always trying to not discarded a bully crisis," according to the recollection of John Mellor, who was enforcement vice president astatine Omniture and stayed connected astatine Adobe for astir 10 much years.

There's a likewise opportunistic sentiment successful the aerial today. With implicit three-quarters of 2022 successful the books, Adobe's banal is down 43% this twelvemonth and connected gait for its worst twelvemonth since 2008, the depths of the fiscal crisis. This time, the institution faces an economical downturn highlighted by soaring inflation.

Last month, Adobe agreed to wage $20 billion for Figma, the largest takeover of a backstage bundle institution and a sum much than 4 times greater than what Adobe had ever spent successful an acquisition. While Narayen is inactive CEO, he's not the idiosyncratic who spearheaded this deal. That favoritism belongs to the president of Adobe's sprawling integer media business, David Wadhwani, according to radical acquainted with the transaction who asked not to beryllium named due to the fact that the details were private.

Wadhwani, 51, has spent much than a decennary astatine Adobe implicit 2 abstracted stints, rejoining the institution successful mid-2021 aft six years successful different Silicon Valley enforcement and investing roles. Wadhwani, Adobe's third highest-paid executive aft Narayen, 59, and concern main Dan Durn, is successful the driver's spot to go the adjacent CEO, a presumption strengthened internally by the Figma deal, immoderate radical adjacent to Adobe said. A erstwhile enforcement told CNBC that everyone is wondering erstwhile Wadhwani volition get the promotion.

In January, Wadhwani and Anil Chakravarthy, the caput of Adobe's selling bundle business, were each named arsenic presidents of the company, a rubric Narayen had held since 2005. Chakravarthy joined Adobe successful 2020 aft serving 4 years arsenic CEO of Informatica.

Some sources adjacent to the institution said Wadhwani and Chakravarthy are some beardown contenders but cautioned that Narayen isn't leaving anytime soon. The concern Wadhwani oversees is astir 3 times the size arsenic Chakravarthy's successful presumption of revenue.

For Wadhwani, Figma represents a risky stake connected growth astatine a clip erstwhile Wall Street is telling tech companies to tighten their belts and sphere cash. Assuming the woody closes, Adobe is paying astir 50 times yearly recurring revenue, and a terms adjacent to treble Figma's backstage valuation past year, adjacent with unreality stocks broadly down by much than fractional successful the past 12 months. At the clip of the announcement, the acquisition terms amounted to astir 12% of Adobe's marketplace cap, compared to astir 10% for Omniture 13 years ago.

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Figma laminitis and CEO Dylan Field volition study to Wadhwani. Brad Rencher, erstwhile caput of Adobe's selling bundle group, said Wadhwani's elevated presumption became abundantly wide to him erstwhile helium archetypal work of the acquisition.

"I was like, OK, David was the sponsor. He was the 1 lasting up and doing it," said Rencher, who's present CEO of BambooHR, a startup successful Utah. A determination that large doesn't hap without the CEO's support, Rencher said.

Narayen told CNBC's Jon Fortt past period that helium and Field had held "multiple conversations" implicit the years. Field said astatine a league precocious that Adobe archetypal reached retired to Figma successful 2012, days aft helium announced the startup. But Adobe waited a decennary to pounce, giving Figma clip to amusement that it could win selling its bundle wrong ample companies such arsenic Microsoft.

The make-or-break bet

In his 15-year tenure arsenic CEO, Narayen hasn't been shy astir dealmaking, conscionable astatine a smaller size. He orchestrated respective billion-dollar-plus deals, including Omniture. The biggest anterior to Figma was selling automation bundle supplier Marketo, which Adobe bought for $4.75 cardinal successful 2018.

Figma is different. It shows Adobe's willingness to wage apical dollar for a trendy plus and fto it tally independently, alternatively than conscionable buying companies and integrating their capabilities into existing products. And it mightiness beryllium Wadhwani's make-or-break accidental to beryllium helium should beryllium CEO of the fourth-biggest U.S. concern bundle institution by marketplace cap.

Among past and existent colleagues, Wadhwani is known to beryllium unnervingly inactive successful meetings, speaking successful a dilatory and measured mode and often wrapping up by summarizing the 3 astir captious points that were discussed. Rencher said there's a wide similarity to his boss.

"He's made successful Shantanu's image," Rencher said.

Still, helium tin go passionate and animated. Rencher recalls a institution offsite for executives a small implicit a decennary agone astatine a spa edifice successful Carmel Valley, California, astir 2 hours southbound of Adobe's office successful San Jose. There was an icebreaker to effort and easiness the executives into conversation. But Wadhwani was acceptable to get down to business.

"We've got to alteration thing oregon we're going to beryllium successful trouble," Wadhwani said, according to Rencher's representation of the event.

Adobe said Wadhwani wasn't disposable for an interrogation and the institution declined to remark connected succession planning.

Wadhwani is said to beryllium a dedicated household man, with a wife, 2 daughters and a dog, though helium allows himself 1 indulgence. When helium travels connected business, helium insists connected eating McDonald's astatine airports. In particular, helium loves the French fries, a erstwhile workfellow said.

At Adobe, Wadhwani has been astatine the halfway of 1 of the astir important shifts successful the company's 39-year history: the determination from perpetual licenses to subscriptions. When Adobe revealed the expansive program for a caller concern exemplary to analysts successful 2011, Wadhwani was tasked with announcing the prices.

"We judge that implicit the people of the adjacent fewer years arsenic a effect of this, we'll pull implicit 800,000 caller users — caller incremental users to our Creative Suite — and bash it successful a mode that's bully for the lawsuit and bully for Adobe," Wadhwani said.

Revenue maturation slowed and yet declined arsenic Adobe made its strategical and technological changes. But each quarter, hundreds of thousands much radical signed up for Creative Cloud, a bundled subscription offering of cardinal Adobe products specified arsenic Photoshop, Illustrator and Premiere Pro.

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The gross became much predictable and little intimately associated with merchandise releases. Investors responded by pushing the banal terms supra the $50 people successful precocious 2013 for the archetypal time. It kept rising, and by 2016, astir 7 cardinal radical were subscribing to Creative Cloud. In all, the banal terms soared 233% implicit those 4 and a fractional years, compared with a 67% emergence for the S&P 500.

Prior to the Creative Cloud launch, executives discussed the imaginativeness astatine an enforcement gathering astatine a lodge successful Sausalito, California, crossed the Golden Gate Bridge from San Francisco.

It wasn't a universally fashionable thought to stake the institution connected a caller gross exemplary that was conscionable starting to summation wide adoption successful software. But Wadhwani spoke up successful the mediate of a disagreement and made wide that helium saw existent worth successful the effort. He showed the radical aboriginal drawings of the merchandise from institution designers, said Michael Gough, a erstwhile Adobe vice president, who was successful attendance.

"He was the 1 that was benignant of rallying radical to instrumentality it seriously," Gough said. "Let's speech astir what would we really do. What are we missing from the stack? What benignant of resources would it take? He was taking the imaginativeness and creating a moving plan, basically, and getting radical to astatine slightest speech astir the anticipation of doing it."

Jumping to a startup

By 2015, the subscription concern was humming. Adobe importantly outperformed its people for paid Creative Cloud subscriptions. In June of that year, Wadhwani presented for the archetypal clip connected an Adobe quarterly net telephone with analysts.

Three months later, helium resigned "to prosecute a CEO opportunity," arsenic Adobe stated successful a press release. The caller gig was made nationalist a mates weeks later, erstwhile information analytics startup AppDynamics said Wadhwani would beryllium taking implicit for Jyoti Bansal, a prima laminitis successful the bundle manufacture and the Bay Area.

Wadhwani told colleagues erstwhile helium near that helium wanted to beryllium a CEO, said a erstwhile Adobe employee. Internally, determination was chatter that he'd travel to spot that helium wouldn't beryllium the adjacent CEO of Adobe, according to a erstwhile executive.

Bansal, who'd guided AppDynamics into the billion-dollar startup club, was resistant to the thought of bringing successful an extracurricular CEO, said Steve Harrick, a spouse astatine Institutional Venture Partners, an aboriginal backer of the company. Wadhwani yet won implicit Bansal, who didn't respond to a petition for comment.

Harrick said that Wadhwani would often travel up with him aft committee meetings that ended without solution connected important matters. As CEO, Wadhwani pushed for engineers to physique bundle in-house to broaden its offerings to existing customers, Harrick said. He besides guided the institution to become much dependent connected gross from subscriptions, alternatively than from much accepted licenses, an improvement helium had precocious astatine Adobe.

Wadhwani was rapidly poised to beryllium CEO of a nationalist company, aft AppDynamics filed for its IPO successful 2016. Early the pursuing year, the institution was acceptable to rise astir $200 cardinal and commercialized connected the Nasdaq until Cisco showed up astatine the last minute and agreed to wage $3.7 cardinal for AppDynamics, much than treble its expected valuation.

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"They were not dual-tracking. They were not trying to beryllium bought," said Harrick. "They were earnestly saying, 'This is simply a nationalist company, that's our marching orders.'"

Wadhwani stayed astatine Cisco aft the acquisition. With Cisco trying to grow beyond networking and telecommunications cogwheel and into software, Wadhwani advocated for the institution to bash much deals, suggesting it look astatine Datadog and HashiCorp, according to a erstwhile Cisco executive.

Neither woody happened. Datadog went nationalist successful September 2019, followed by HashiCorp successful December 2021. However, Cisco did invest successful HashiCorp successful 2020.

Wadhwani near Cisco successful October 2019 to articulation task steadfast Greylock Partners, an aboriginal capitalist successful AppDynamics. Less than 2 years later, helium rejoined Adobe to again tally the integer media business, but this clip with bigger aspirations.

"He missed having a radical of radical astir him wherever they were doing a batch of worldly together," said Mona Akmal, co-founder and CEO of income bundle startup Falkon, which was Wadhwani's archetypal Greylock investment.

Akmal told Wadhwani she wanted him to instrumentality with her adjacent arsenic helium pursued a occupation elsewhere. He's continued attending each committee meeting, she said.

Akmal said she wasn't amazed to spot Wadhwani instrumentality to an operating role, arsenic she would gag with him that helium was calved to beryllium a CEO. He's gangly and handsome, and his hairsbreadth is ever perfect, she said. She would inquire astir his hair, which has turned mostly white, and question wherefore helium hasn't dyed it.

"Are we doing the achromatic hairsbreadth due to the fact that we privation to look much executive?" she remembered asking him. "He would springiness you the smile, like, 'Maybe.'"

Wadhwani rapidly got up to velocity upon his instrumentality to San Jose. He's participated successful each 3 of Adobe's quarterly net calls with analysts this year, providing details connected Creative Cloud and, much recently, the Figma deal.

Internally, his targets included reaching originative professionals who are becoming much consenting to collaborate, increasing Document Cloud aft the pandemic boosted e-signature rival DocuSign and popularizing Adobe Express to code the debased extremity of the market, a erstwhile enforcement said.

'Really important shift'

He's been recruiting apical talent, bringing backmost merchandise seasoned Deepa Subramaniam and technologist Ely Greenfield, who was exertion main astatine AppDynamics nether Wadhwani.

At Adobe's yearly Max league successful Los Angeles this month, Wadhwani took the signifier for the archetypal clip since 2014, and highlighted to analysts the opportunities to grow the integer media business.

He said the institution was making "a truly important displacement and transition," directing radical who amusement involvement successful moving with PDF files toward escaped services and past introducing them to premium capabilities. Wadhwani said the institution has taken a leafage from its Document Cloud concern and applied it to Creative Cloud, encouraging customers to wage for further services.

At the event, Wadhwani said Figma's fashionable plan collaboration tools tin accelerate Adobe's effort to get much radical engaging with documents successful Adobe applications, frankincense widening the excavation of imaginable customers. He invited Field to articulation him onstage and speech astir Figma's existent projects.

Dylan Field, co-founder and CEO of Figma, speaks astatine the startup's Config league successful San Francisco connected May 10, 2022.

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During a question-and-answer league aboriginal successful the day, Wadhwani sat straight to the close of Narayen, who was flanked connected the different broadside by Chakravarthy. Wadhwani and Narayen seemed to person coordinated their outfits. Both wore sneakers and sweaters implicit collared shirts.

Jay Vleeschhouwer, an expert astatine Griffin Securities, asked the executives however Figma tin assistance Adobe go much web oriented.

"I could astir apt virtually walk hours connected record formats versus entity models successful the web and what it takes," Narayen said.

Then Wadhwani spoke up. Figma doesn't beryllium connected immoderate 1 record format, helium noted.

"One of the things that we're truly excited about," Wadhwani said, is "working with Dylan and squad to instrumentality those halfway capabilities, instrumentality the halfway level that Dylan and squad person built, and truly reimagine what should the flows be."

"Good quality is David tin besides speech hours astir the aforesaid issue," Narayen said, referring to his record formats comment. Narayen smiled arsenic the analysts and his chap executives laughed.

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